Skin in The Game with Debbie Go
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Quiet Strength, Better Questions, and Why Trust Outlasts Intensity | Ping Yan on Skin in the Game (Teaser)
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When Ping Yan built ABS, she believed a leader’s job was to have every answer.
She worked day and night, solving every problem, trying to control every outcome. The moment she began to release that belief, her business started to thrive.
In this episode of #SkinInTheGamewithDebbieGo, I sit down with Ping, CEO of ABS International and Co-founder of EverGrace Home, to understand that shift. She now calls the result “quiet strength.”
Early on, Ping thought leadership meant having all the answers. Over time, she learned to stop solving and start asking better questions – letting experts lead in their fields. She discovered that consistency and calm build far more trust than constant intensity. Resilience, she says, is built by staying in the game, staying agile, and refusing to quit through uncertainty.
She crystallised it all into one sentence: “At the end of the day, we need to create more trust than just intensity.”
🔗 Links & Resources:
• linkedin.com/in/ping-yan-9910a914/
• https://evergracehome.com
• instagram.com/evergraceliving/
If your leadership style still tells you to carry every answer alone, Ping’s approach offers a different, quieter way.
🎬Watch the full episode on Monday, June 1.
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Ping:
[0:01] Over time, I realized something very important is the resilience that I've been
talking about through the leadership. That's very important. It is built through staying in the game. You don't give up. You continue to build on, facing the new challenges, and then move on. So bring the value, To stay agile and continue to learn, that's what keeps me moving forward.
Debbie:
[0:29] I can imagine it took a lot of courage to step out of your comfort zone. Take me back to those first few years of running ABS. What's one lesson from that chapter that you still find yourself using when you lead today?
Ping:
[0:43] In the early years when I built ABS, I thought leadership means having the right answer. I feel, oh, I am responsible for solving everything. That's why I was under high pressure every day, making the decision, fixing problem, try to control the outcomes, day and night watching and talking to the customer. But over time, I realized something very important. I don't need to know every answer. It's asking the right question, get people who are good in the field and learning from them and using their expertise.
Ping:
[1:22] My business growing up, and I realized leadership is not just about driving the result. It's about how we show up for people. Quite the strength comes from the experience. You go through enough uncertainty, then you learn that not every situation, we have a really strong reaction. Sometimes we need the stability and to calmly make a decision.
Ping:
[1:54] So at the end of the day, we need to create more trust than just intensity. So I think it's come through long-term thinking, building the business over 20 plus years, especially in the global manufacturing.
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